Is Muscat planning to eradicate the current middle class, or just bump it up to lower-high-kless?

Published: October 2, 2012 at 10:34am

A letter published in The Times today:

More pie in the sky
by Alfred Formosa, Sliema

So if elected, Joseph Muscat and the PL are going to create a new middle class. Where, I ask will that leave me?

I consider myself to be middle class. I own and run a small successful business which gives me a good income and a comfortable lifestyle. I own a house with a pool that is paid for, and have put three children through university.

Like Franco Debono, I am a self-made man.

If Dr Muscat comes to power and somehow manages to create a new middle class, this new middle class will presumably consist of people who are currently on the lower rungs of the ladder.

So, and I hope I will not be considered facetious for asking, if and when this new middle class is created, will I get automatically bumped up to upper middle class or to lower high class?




134 Comments Comment

  1. S Borg says:

    I would really like to know which years this gentleman made it to the upper class…u ifhimni…

    • Antoniette says:

      People “make it to middle class” because the government creates a stable, safe enviornment in which businesses can thrive and not, as I suspect you are implying, because one is a supporter or “tal-klicka”.

      • S Borg says:

        I was actually implying that this gentleman managed to have this life due to the safe business environment that we nowadays have, and surely not because of the capers industry.

      • I am curious to know when did Mr. Formosa start his business ?

        Please note that we still have many businesses, including foreign ones, which started doing business in the 1970s and 1980s. Also please note that the BIGGEST ONE, Microelectronics, also came ot Malta during those years , when Labour was in government !

      • Jozef says:

        It’s true, he does leave a space before his exclamation marks, like this !

      • Joe Micallef says:

        Hello “Sur Privitera tal-appuntamenti ma Dear Leader”! How’s business going?

        Lest some don’t know Privy offers appointments with Dear Leader – so if anyone has a wart that is bothering him or is bothered by that of someone else I urge you to get in touch with him. Now is the time!

      • ciccio says:

        Joe Micallef, thanks for sharing this information. You see, Mr. Privitera has not denied it so far.

        Nor did he ever advertise the service on the comments board of timesofmaltaonline. There are many “ex-PN” and disgruntled voters over there. He could have a good catch.

        Are those meetings held in public, like the congress?

  2. Wayne Hewitt says:

    And I thought socialism is all about the eradication of classes.

    With this new middle class gimmick, Muscatprobably toys with the idea of turning everyone into a single class. We will have just a middle, but no top or bottom.

    • Hewitt: your warped mind would obviously come to such a conclusion !

      • WhoamI? says:

        Ara min hawn! L-isbah resident tat-timesofmalta.com

      • Jozef says:

        If that’s not the case, how about Joseph revoke the rent laws stiffling capital?

        Mhux hekk qal, min jista’ jitlaq jimxi, nhalluh jigri fuq quddiem?

      • maryanne says:

        Isn’t there enough room on timesofmalta.com?

      • el bandido guapo says:

        Oooh look, one of the entertainers has just come on stage. Hope he’ll be around for a while!

      • Indri says:

        You’re also here, Tronga.

        Your PL will stay there in the opposition. You might not manage to see them in power in your life time.

        Not because the PN is so good but the PL and its people and supporters make all the floaters go back to the PN.

        Remember 03 and 08 when you shouted victory before the election. History will repeat itself.

        Labour will only win if you all keep your big mouth shut.

      • U hadd minn dawn li rrispondew m’ghandu l-guts juri ismu jew isimha !

        El bandido guapo: Ghal entertainmeng ghandek bizzejjed biex tehda. Oqghod ara l-Gonzi jdur u jghaqad kull darba li Franco Debono jcaqcaqlu l-frosta !!!

      • Jozef says:

        Sur Privitera, Lawrence Gonzi jinzerta l-prim ministru ta’ pajjizek.

        Turiniex kemm tifilhu tobghoduha lil Malta ghax mhix f’idejkhom.

      • ciccio says:

        Sur Privitera, hawnhekk mhux min int, izda x’taf u x’issarraf. Meritokrazija.

  3. mattie says:

    Mr. Formosa, you will become upper middle lower class.

    • A stupid argument ! What Dr. Muscat was saying, in other words, is that more people would be helped to succeed thus making it to the middle-class too. It seems that Mr. Formosa doesn’t like that !

      [Daphne – More people becoming middle class does not constitute a new middle class, Mr Privitera.]

      • dudu says:

        What sort of middle class would that be if its success depends on being ‘helped’ by Joseph Muscat or more generally by the state? I think it’s a contradiction.

      • Giovanni says:

        Are you the same Eddy who hates the EU at all costs?

      • ciccio says:

        Is this the same Privitera who fills the comments board of ta’ Times?

      • H.P. Baxxter says:

        Welcome to this blog, Mr Privitera. I knew Kevin was recruiting new team members but I never imagined it would be anyone this good.

      • Giovanni says:

        What a depressing person he is.

      • The Shadow says:

        Is this one of the Priviteras who made loads of money by making toilet paper during Mintoff’s import-ban years? Karta Converters, that’s it.

      • Harry Purdie says:

        Hey Eddie! I see you’ve elevated yourself to Daphne’s blog. Good for you.

        However,you must remain focused, astute and intelligent. I appreciate that this is a gigantic step for you, but I have full confidence that you will rise to my low expectations.

      • What did you understand then Mrs. Caruana Galizia ??

      • Hi, Daphne fans ! glad to be given the chance to exchange arguments and even tit-for-tat, if necessary. Halli nghidha buil-Malti halli tifhmuni sewwa. Min jipprova jitfa l-hmieg kif diga ghamel certu Zammit li heba ismu taht ‘ The Shadow’, mhux se niddejjaq incappasulu ma wiccu !

        let me start with ‘The Shadow ( Zammit ) ‘. What you wrote is completely wrong. I have never had a factory pproducing toilet-paper. That was my nephew. You had mistaken me for him and you had written a letter in The Malta Independent. A copy of this letter was given to Dr. Eddie Fenech Adami which he used when I was on the panel of Xarabank where Dr. Fenech Adami was answering questions put to him by the panel.

        Reacting to one of my questions, Dr. Fenech Adami took the copy of this letter out of his pocket, and starting reading its contents, which were precisely what ‘The Shadow’ (Mr. Zammi) has written on this blog ! When I pointed out to Dr. Fenech Adami, that the person referred to by the writer of that letter , a Mr. Zammit, who had also a factory producing
        paper products, was my nephew and not me, Dr. Fenech Adami replied: ” Insomma jigi minnek ” !!!!

        Obviously, Mr. Zammit had also lied since my nephew never had a monopoly. Karta Converters had a BETTER PRODUCT, that’s all !!!

        No wonder ‘THe Shadow’ does not show his real name !

      • Giovanni: Are you the Giovanni who hails from Mosta, and who has now almost disappeared from the Times-on-line ? Are you scared to show your name ?

        [Daphne – No, he isn’t. Giovanni Demartino comments on this website in his own name + surname.]

      • The Shadow says:

        Eddy Privitera. My surname is not Zammit.

      • kev says:

        @ Baxxter, who wrote:

        “Welcome to this blog, Mr Privitera. I knew Kevin was recruiting new team members but I never imagined it would be anyone this good.”

        Eddy is a former eurosceptic, Baxxter. Once the party instructed the herd to turn tail and never delve on the subject, he was the first to obey.

      • ciccio says:

        Ara Kev kif hasel idejh minn Privitera.

      • Jozef says:

        Kull ma’ jonqos Emmy Bezzina u Valerie Borg.

      • H.P. Baxxter says:

        Jekk jidhol Emmy Bezzina, ikollna bzonn server iehor ghall-ittri wara ismu biss.

      • Daphne, I have asked you what you understand by the term: ” new middle class. I haven’t seen your reply as yet. Or you have no answer ?

        [Daphne – Chavs with money.]

      • ciccio says:

        Jonqos Joseph Brincat, dak tal-wind of change li jaghmel tick tack tick tack.

        Sur Privitera, dawk li ma jurux isimhom huma dawk li ghadhom ma jistghux jafdaw lil Partit Laburista fil-gvern ghax jaghmel il-vendikazzjonijiet politici.

      • mattie says:

        Stupid is the ad nauseum comments with which the Times of Malta fills its comments boardh.

        Time is precious, you know, every minute I spend here equals to every hour worth in reading the reality, the truth, the facts and the common sense.

        Keep living in your cave, Eddy. You have nothing to lose anyway. Shouldn’t you be nearing eighty now?

      • mattie says:

        Enlighten us, Eddie, does the PL have the means to help the people succeed? If it does, ghidilna l-pjaniet.

        You seem to know what is on their agenda, so tell me how come nothing has been printed in black on white?

        You know what happened to people who were promised, verbally, things they wished to have or see done hux? They got nothing. Just hope.

        Tina l-fatti, Eddie, bil-paroli u nies bhalek, Malta lura bhal Granc titfugha.

      • mattie says:

        People who want to move up to middle-class levels, need to help themselves.

        Even if Dr Muscat ‘helps’ out, rest assured they’ll still be the type to want everything for free and the minute the Dottore fastens his belt tightly, would be the minute the so-called ‘new mittle-cless’ will go down again.

        In simple english, Mr Privitera, those who are ‘sinking’ left themselves sink or they are sinking because they are going through psychological problems and had no other option – force of health circumstances – no ‘new labour’ will put this right.

  4. kev says:

    The ‘current’ middle class is doomed. Not because Joseph is to be PM, but because when a currency is debased the middle class is also debased. This is standard knowledge.

    We are leaving the Bretton Woods era and entering completely new territory, which, however, will follow very predictable lines for those who have been paying attention. Meanwhile, those who’ve been following sound-bite foreign news and nothing else are in for some mind-boggling times which they will no doubt rationalise according to their narrow paradigm that stands for a worldview.

    • Harry Purdie says:

      ‘entering completely new territory’, ‘will follow very predictable lines’. Here we have the ‘Oracle of the Kitchen’ spouting his usual drivel.

      • kev says:

        Okay, Purdie, kitchen drivel, fair enough, but let me see if I got this right:

        You originate in the Swiss Alps but defect to Canada in the ’30s only to fall off a mountain shack’s gable decades later and stumble on a native-infested rock which you decide will finally cheer you up, thank you very much.

        Or was deadbeat Canada the land of origin, if not the free, before you hit the alpine twilight zone that once sheltered the civilised world from nordish barbarian tribesmen?

        In any case, was it the natives, the plaintiffs, the taxman or the statesman that did it?

        I expect a witty retort now, Purdie. You can keep to the dishwashing theme if that’s what tickles your fancy, but make sure it’s a squeeky-smart dishwash.

      • Jozef says:

        Kev’s worried Harry, Draghi’s butchering his toxic junk.

      • Harry Purdie says:

        Gosh, Kevvy, all of the above. How did you track me and my colourful history in only five hours? Or was the time used too concoct your, oh so ‘witty’, response.

        Yes, Jozef, he deserves to worry. I hear Sharon wants to move to Canada.

      • maryanne says:

        Kev, you asked Harry Purdie what did it for him to come to Malta. What did it for you to go to Brussels? You hate Europe and all it stands for and yet you have to breathe that Brussels air in your lungs 24/7 and you have to rub against all those EU bureaucrats. X’dulur tghix fih.

        Europe is not the only continent, there are others. Find some place where you like and be happy.

    • Jozef says:

      Yes, because class, in your book, is about the money.

    • Gravy Train says:

      Whither the lower classes that hopped over the divide to cadge a seat on the gravy train?

      • kev says:

        You know they haven’t a clue of what your talking about when the response is soaked in green gravy. Or is it soylent green?

    • Antoine Vella says:

      Kev, you’re obsessed with money and always talk about it, whatever the topic you’re commenting on.

      Now, I admit that, money-wise, you’ve done pretty well for an ex-police inspector. Thanks to the EU, of course (the irony of it).

      However, this hardly qualifies you as an expert on monetary systems and world finance, as you seem to fancy yourself. Peppering your loony conspiracy theories with jargon does not elevate it beyond the level of drivel, as so eloquently put by Harry Purdie.

      • kev says:

        Debate the subject at issue, Vella. Tell me where I’m wrong and why. Play the ball, not the man – or don’t play at all. Go to the Taliban club. Ban laptops from your kindergarten classes. Play Profs as much as you like, but do please give us a reasoned argument once in a while.

      • Harry Purdie says:

        ‘Debate the subject at issue’, Kevvy? How does one debate with a google-oriented plaigerizer who has no original thought, as he stands over the sink.

        Sharon must be ashamed that you continue to post on this blog, thinking it must be be some masochistic self-flagellation weakness.

        No one here appreciates your meanderings. However, please continue, we all require comic relief, from time to time.

      • kev says:

        So now it’s “google-oriented plaigerizer” eh, Purdie? But still, you are unable to debate the subject. Instead, you come up with the most ridiculous attacks and charges. And you know what, Purdie, whenever I write something here, I keep it to such rudimentary levels that I don’t even have to check the details of the facts. I haven’t got a great memory, but it suffices here.

      • Harry Purdie says:

        Kevvy, why would one attempt to dignify your weird theories with a rational argument? It’s a waste of time, yours (dish washing) and mine (anything but dish washing).

        ‘I don’t even have to check the details of the facts.’ It shows, Kevvy, it shows.

    • Joe Micallef says:

      Kev, you need to get hold of more contemporary economic research and not flea market stuff!

    • Fido says:

      Doo-oo-oo-oom and Gloo-oo-oo-oom! Doo-oo-oo-oom and Gloo-oo-oo-oom!

    • ciccio says:

      Kev, is there any hope for those following sound-bite LOCAL news and nothing else?

      Ghaqal fit-tmexxija.
      Inhallukom tahdmu.
      Fer sosajeti.
      Il-mittel kless.
      Rowdmepp.
      Liffink wejc.
      Linji gwida.
      Akkawntabiliti.
      Sowxjil impekt essessment.
      Wi will stennd app tu bi kawntid.
      Ju kenn rann bat ju kennot hajd.
      Progressivi w moderati.
      Futur li Jaqq-Ghadna.

      • mandango70 says:

        You forgot to mention “par itejn soti”.

      • U FTIT XHUR OHRA, JEKK MHUX GIMGHAT, IKOLLOK TILGHAQ DAN IL-KLIEM KOLLU LI KTIBT, CICCIO ! Issa mur cicci stenna s-siegha tad-destin tasal ghal GonziPN u l-Klikka tal-Hazen, kif jghidilkom Franco Debono !

      • ciccio says:

        Ara, s-Sur Privitera gie hawn biex joqghod jheddidna.

        Sur Privitera, ftit xhur ohra tghidx kemm se jkollna izjed xi nghidu, u biex nidhku.

        Bilhaqq, insejt insemmi “l-interess nazzjonali,” li ghalissa Joseph Muscat hbiha, imma l-ghada tal-elezzjoni tghidx kemm ser nisimghuha.

        Per ezempju:

        Mhux fl-interess nazzjonali li nrahhsu il-kontijiet tad-dawl u tal-ilma ghax naghmlu hsara lill-Enemalta.

        Mhux fl-interess nazzjonali li l-istudenti jibqghu jiehdu l-istipendju. Ser insahhu is-sistema tal-istipendji billi niffinanzjawha b’self li l-istudenti jridu jiehdu mil-banek. Peress li l-banek Maltin huma b’sahhithom, is-sistema tal-istipendji qatt ma hi ser tkun daqshekk b’sahhitha.

        Mhux fl-interess nazzjonali li noholqu il-lifink wejc, ghax toghla il-hajja.

      • H.P. Baxxter says:

        You tell ’em, Mr Privitera.

  5. Gakku says:

    He’ll inject blue blood into the rest of us.

    • WhoamI? says:

      Mohhok hemm kif tuza t-terminu “blue blood”. Ghax dawn tal-Labour darba hasbu li “blue-eyed” kienet xi referenza ghan-Nazzjonalisti.

      U xbajt nisma nies jghidu li ma jisthux jghidu li demmhom ahmar ghax hasbu li blue-blood hija referenza ghan-Nazzjonalisti ukoll.

      Labour won’t work.

  6. el bandido guapo says:

    He’ll lower the standards for entry.

  7. Albert Farrugia says:

    You will continue to enjoy your comfortable lifestyle-with-a-pool, Mr Formosa, don’t worry. You run a successful business, whose success depends on the ability of even the “non-pool” people to buy products and services from you.

    A new “middle-class” will be better able to afford your wares, so your future is guaranteed and you will keep splashing around in your pool for many many years to come.

  8. Just me says:

    A Labour government always seems to create more problems rather than solve them. And with the problems facing the world today, I predict that after a few mistakes by the Labour government, many jobs will be lost and we will have the same huge problems other countries are facing.

  9. mandango70 says:

    Fair comment and question by Alfred Formosa. He’s right to ask and he has a right for a clear reply too.

    My only doubt about the letter is its title, which I would assume that The Times’ editor came up with. AF does not seem to be alleging any “pies in the sky” in relation to the promises put forward by Labour; he is merely and justifiably enquiring as to whether he’ll be footing part of the bill for the “upgrading” of those in the lower rungs, or whether (as he rightly expects) he’ll be pushed further up.

    • Jozef says:

      And that’s where you fail miserably.

      I don’t need, didn’t ask, won’t have any of your pushing further up, thank you very much. Just leave that to me.

      • mandango70 says:

        I have no problems with you stalking me Jozef. However I’d appreciate if your comments made sense. This is the second time (at least) that you comment on my post, and quite sincerely I have no idea what you’re on about exactly.

      • Jozef says:

        Stalking you? Simply because I keep track of your corresponding change in tack whenever Joseph comes up with some new misguided idea on how to bag votes?

        Of course you have no idea what I’m talking about, used to your centralised ideology and lack of faith in anyone outside the party.

        That’s enough reason to realise why the country’s given you its back repeatedly Mandango, it’s called self-respect.

        Something we don’t need appropriated to be put across as another handout from your dear Joseph.

  10. Aunt Hetty says:

    There goes another numbskull being allowed on Franco’s blog, to compare Dr Gonzi with Hitler who set fire to the German parliament to remain ‘iggranfat mas-siggu tal poter”’.

    http://www.francodebono.com/2012/10/01/happy-christmas/

    ”EVIL CLIQUE
    Oct 02, 2012 @ 07:51:53

    Hitler BURNED the parliament when he wanted to remain IGGRANFAT MAL POTER .
    Gonzi is either close the parliament for long holidays or like yesterday open and close without doing anything ”.

    Apart from the obvious irony of the timing of this comment ( We are practIcally on the eve of the burning down of the Times building), and the potentially libellious content, the idiot knows jack shit about history. The arson attack on the German parliament was made by Nazi thugs to help Hitler then in OPPOSITION, to SEIZE POWER.

  11. Mike says:

    Pool and middle class don’t go together. Something is not right.

    [Daphne – Pools are VERY middle class, Mike.]

    • Edward Caruana Galizia says:

      Either that or you have a small flat by the beach where you stay in the summer.

    • Logikal says:

      Mela m’ghandekx pool Def? What is a house without a pool worth?

      [Daphne – No, I don’t have a pool. Pools don’t necessarily add to the value of a house. It all depends on the sort of house, and the sort of pool. Some pools are utterly naff and actually detract from the value of a house.]

    • Matthew says:

      ‘Pools are very middle class”, xi hlew.

  12. Chris says:

    This guy is not middle class!!

  13. Paul Borg says:

    l-orizzont website put the prime minister’s picture on the story about the life sentence given to Silvio Mangion (kalanc)

  14. only in Malta says:

    Please check out this blog post about a close encounter with a very vulgar man who turned out to be Labour star candidate Joe Debono Grech:

    http://www.michellesullivan.org/blog/1369

  15. Leslie Darmanin says:

    Anyone with a bit of knowledge of the US presidential campaign can work out where this Jospeh Muscat is getting his cliches from.

    The middle-class crap is from Obama, who represents anything but the US middle class. His most recent claim that Lawrence Gonzi is good at winning elections but not at governing sounds very much like a recent Mitt Ronney quote.

    This Joseph Muscat is just a childish dilettant, imitating the big boys in the US thinking no one will notice.

    The horror of it all is that he will be prime minister soon. Who is he going to immitate then?

    • el bandido guapo says:

      He will imitate the PN in Government as best he can. Reading through his statements, it is amply clear that he does not feel half as competent as Gonzi.

      What Muscat wants to give us is an alternative PN, because he understands that there is no real alternative to the PN’s system of government.

      Unfortunately he will be just as successful as I would be at giving you an alternative Joseph Calleja.

  16. MMuscat says:

    So Franco Debono is the new point of reference now.

    Soon but not for long, we’ll have silly conversations like:

    “How tall are you?” “I’m a franco and 1/16th.”

  17. Edward Caruana Galizia says:

    This is the problem with Muscat’s promise of a new middle class: there can only be one and it exists already.

    There will be no new middle class, just more people considered to be middle class.

    So what does he mean when he says “new middle class” exactly?

    Or does he not understand what he means himself?

    Will this new middle class have a new name with it too? Does it have to be different from the rest of the country that is classified as middle class and do we need another division in the country?

    • ciccio says:

      The new middle class means that Joseph Muscat’s government will take away the wealth of the existing middle and upper classes, rendering them poor in the process, and will redistribute that wealth to his faithful, thereby creating a new middle class.
      Gvern ghal-Laburisti biss.

      We’ve seen this in the 1970s and 1980s. What’s new?

      • Ciccio: Scaremongering stories do not impress anyone today. These tactics prove only one thing- THAT GONZI’S CLIQUE ARE TERRIFIED THAT THE MALTESE PEOPLE WILL DISCOVER SO MANY SINISTER THINGS WHICH HAVE HAPPENED DURING THE REIGN OF GONZIPN, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE WHISTLEBLOWER ACT BECOMES OPERATIVE !

      • ciccio says:

        Sur Privitera, your CAPS LOCK “does not impress anyone today.”

        If anything, it shows that you still think that you will have your way by shouting and abusing us. Labour won’t change.

    • Edward: The middle class can become much bigger with a government which does not govern for the year prior to the election , but governs from the very first day of the legislature !

      This is what Dr. Muscat has promised, that there will be many more people who can improve their standard of living and reach the middle class level. It seems GonziPN does not wish that this happens under a PL government !

      • ciccio says:

        Under Labour, more people will afford a “Mercedes, sauna, and room for a pony.”

      • mattie says:

        Ghandek mentalita imrancta, gravi aktar minn-nies li gejjin mit-tielet dinja.

        Ha nghidlek, nies tat-tielet dinja jistghu jkunu stilla hdejk.

        Ibqa sejjer hekk – tahwida tajba ghandek: mentalita tat-tielet dinja ma’ partit skadut mit-tielet dinja.

        LOL.

        Tridx li jergghu jifthu l-fabbriki ukoll? Ma temminx fl-apartheid ukoll hux ghal li jista jkun?

  18. anthony says:

    I envy Mr Mifsud for his boundless optimism.

    My fear is that, when Joey is elected, he will bump me down from my middle class to God only knows where.

    “The curse of capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth;
    the curse of socialism is the equal distribution of poverty/misery’.

    W S Churchill.

  19. Matt B says:

    Oh great.

    Eddy Privitera has inundated the Times’ comments boards over the years with his drivel, and now he’s going to start doing the same here too?

    Daphne, could you please keep this an Eddy Privitera-free site? The old man bugs many to bits, not least because he’s devoid of a cog or two up there.

    • anthony says:

      I beg to disagree.

      The more drivel we have on this blog, from the right sources, the better.

      Analysing the drivel will be great fun.

      There are a couple of dozen bloggers, at least, who would thrive on tearing drivel apart.

      Come on drivel.

      • The more the merrier ! I was trained for this way back in the 1960s when I was the only correspondent writing in The Times criticizing the PN government. The Times would then publish 4,5,6 letters replying to mine, which I used to reply to in just one letter, demolishing their stupid arguments . So I have developed quite a thick skin, more so when I know the PN’s history quite well !

        So bring them on Daphne !

        [Daphne – I hope that by the time I’ve got to your age, Mr Privitera, I’ll have found something better to do.]

      • Harry Purdie says:

        ‘Trained’. Eddie? Like a performing seal? You’re way past your sell by date.

        Your ‘thick skin’ has infected your brain, now also thick. Oh so thick.

        However, please continue to post, all the world wants to marvel at your silly inanities.

        [Daphne – Eddy. With a Y. He doesn’t want to be mistaken for the far more famous man.]

      • Harry Purdie says:

        Gotcha, Daphne. Eddy, the idiot, it is.

      • ciccio says:

        “So I have developed quite a thick skin, more so when I know the PN’s history quite well !”

        It’s Labour’s history that you don’t seem to know quite so well, Mr. Privitera. As it happens, you’re lucky because there are a few experts in the matter on this blog.

        If you stay long enough on this blog, you will learn a few things about it.

        But I warn you. Your thick skin may turn to goose skin as a consequence.

    • Matt B. Besides the fact that you seem to be ashamed to show your name, you also seem to be scared that I have just started to comment on Daphne’s Notebook columns !

  20. H.P. Baxxter says:

    I’m working class, so if more people make it middle class thanks to Joseph Muscat, I’ll be even more of an exception. Gee, thanks a lot.

    • Harry Purdie says:

      Think you’ve got that backward, Baxxter. You’re all class, and we all have to work.

      Little Joey was, is, and will be a screw-up. He’s not interested in the ‘middle class’. He, and his ilk only seek personal gain, nothing else. Witness the seventies and eighties. So, will the Maltese let them have another go?

      If they do, we should all be prepared to enter the ‘lower class’.

      • H.P. Baxxter says:

        I forgot that you were raised across the pond.

        In British parlance, working class denotes social origins more than anything else.

        It’s not about income, even though politicians, even in the UK, having started using “middle class” to mean “middle-income earners”.

        The corollary then is that money defines class, and from then on it’s a slippery slope to Caqnu’s pool.

      • Harry Purdie says:

        Âccording to that definition, Baxxter, since my Scottish parents’ social origins were somewhat wanting and mysterious, I guess I am ‘lower class’.

        If now, you say that ‘money’ defines class, I suppose I’ve moved up a few rungs. although never rejecting my social origins.

        Caqnu can keep his ‘cess’pool. HIs money and clout will never raise him from the depths of the ‘under class’.

        Time we had another get together.

      • Harry Purdie;Under Gonzin you got so used to politicians “only seeking personal gain”, starting with the scandalous €600 per week increase which Dr. Gonzi and his ministers and parliamentary secretaries, gave themselves, that you are now judging the PL with the same yardstick !

      • Harry Purdie says:

        Eddy. what are you on about? Your people have, over the years, when in power, totally exemplified the greed, violence and arrogance that free thinkers abhor.

        Your abysmal defence of such sickening behaviour indicates that you are a no hoper.

        You should spend more time improving your English, it is pitiful.

  21. Jozef says:

    Erm, is one allowed to refuse being Joseph’s middle class?

  22. Bubu says:

    Just a little taste of what kind of attitude we can expect from the dinosaurs when they are back in power.

    http://www.michellesullivan.org/blog/1369

  23. Samurai says:

    Franco tant tilef rasu li issa sa wasal biex kilteb hekk, “Qed jibghat il-mara ddur in-nies, sseffaq wicca u taghmel il-pjaciri. Politika parrokjali u tal-misthija. Lawrence ‘DCG’ Gonzi ghal kollox jasal. Jidher li qed jaghmlulu hafna pasta ma wiccu biex jghatti l-hofor . . .pero l-problema mhix l-hofor imma z-zejt li m’ghandux f’wicu kif ighid il-Malti ! Literally and figuratively fake and made up.”

    Tal-misthija.

  24. Eldarion says:

    What’s this Daphne, afraid to post the comments of a disillusioned Nationalist? :)

  25. Antoine Vella says:

    Alfred Formosa, who wrote the letter to The Times, is paying Joseph Muscat an undeserved compliment by taking him seriously and trying to understand what he’s saying. There’s no need for that.

    Muscat’s words are meaningless slogans meant to impress his audience. Phrases like ‘living wage’, ‘new middle class’, ‘crisis of truth’, ‘I have a dream’, ‘an innovative idea . . butchered on the altar of petty politics’. etc, mean nothing. There’s nothing beyond the words except emptiness.

    I’ve never seen a Maltese major politician as obviously affected and contrived as Joseph Muscat.

  26. Logikal says:

    Just a small correction Mr. Formosa; the Maltese taxpayer ‘put your children through University, if this was in Malta’.

  27. verita says:

    Sur Privitera, kullhadd jaf kemm inti kontra l-Unjoni Ewropeja specjalment li int membru attiv fil-moviment anti-Ewropej ikkapitanat minn Dr Mifsud Bonnici.

    Allura bhal membru attiv ukoll fil-PL, x’ hinu jzommok li tressaq mozzjoni fil-konferenza li jmiss biex il-PL johrog lil MALTA mil-Ewropa? Ghamel kuragg, Sur Privitera, u ressaq il mozzjoni ha naraw l irgulijja tieghek sa fejn tasal.

    • Siehbi, jien lanqas ma jien delegat. U lnqas ma jien f’xi kumitat tal-PL.

      Imma la semmejt il-mozzjonijiet, mhux ahjar tistaqsi lil-Lawrence Gonzi ghax ma jressaqx mozzjoni ta’ fiducja f’GonziPN fil-parlament , jekk jemmen li ghad ghandu l-fiducja tal-parlament ???

      [Daphne – Mr Privitera, a single interrogation mark is sufficient.]

      • Harry Purdie says:

        Yes Daphne, this silly man’s over-employment of exclamation marks and capitals indicates that he like to shout a lot. Sad, but typical. Must be scary in person.

        However, little people seem to be prone to do that here. must be something in their makeup. Guess they never use blush.

  28. elephant says:

    Privitera, with all his qualities, is not stupid. He knows that his anti-EU will not get him anywhere, now. However he is trying to get into Muscat’s good books – he might succeed, seeing Muscat’s efforts to get as many votes as possible.

    • Jozef says:

      Right, KMB for president of the republic it is.

      • KMB tilef l-elezzjoni tan- 1987 b’5,000 vot. Issa naraw x’se jaghmel Gonzi fl-elezzjoni li gejja.

      • ciccio says:

        “Issa naraw x’se jaghmel Gonzi fl-elezzjoni li gejja.”

        Sur Privitera, Ha nghidlek x’mhux ser jaghmel zgur Dr. Gonzi fl-elezzjoni li gejja.
        Dr. Gonzi zgur li mhux se jimpjega 8,000 ruh jahdmu mal-gvern fl-elezzjoni li gejja.

      • mattie says:

        @ Eddy Privitera

        Ahjar tikkkoncentra fuq dak li ‘qed jghid’ li ser jaghmel il-partit tieghek, li sa issa, wieghdiet biss ta’ lil poplu.

        U bil-haqq lanqas huma weghdiet elettorali. M’humiex wieghdiet serji. M’humiex wieghdiet li jaghmlu sens konkret. M’humiex wieghdet bis-sens komun. Huma biss Tama.

        Misskom tifhu ghaqda u ssemmuha ‘Dar Speranza’. Tmorru tajjeb zgur.

        Qiskom Vanna Marchi.

      • Jozef says:

        Sur Privitera, jien bis-serjeta’ qed nghid.

        Issa tara la jitla’ Joseph, jekk jaghmilx lil Karmenu Mifsud Bonnici president.

        Ghax ma’ tithajjarx ghal mastru cerimonjier? Mur arak izzanzan xi tibdila f’jum il-helsien, tixxabbat mal-latrina li hemm quddiem il-knisja tal-Birgu, tkun qisek gharus….

        Dnub li ghosfor miskin, ara kemm kien jiehu gost kieku, Sammy jgorru kukku zejt u Mary tnewwahlu.

    • If anybody is trying to get into the people’s “good books” it is Lawrence Gonzi, who is going into people’s kitchens ! Alas too late in the day and is having no effect, People are no longer “CWIEC” as Tonio Fenech seems to believe.

      • mattie says:

        Dal-Gvern u ta’ qablu, gabu lil Malta fuq saqajha.

        Jekk int, m’intix fuq saqajk, u bil-qieghda, tort tieghek. Hadd m’ghandu skuza. Opportunitajiet hawn bizilbilju.

        Dal Gvern, Grazzi ghalih, ta’ lil poplu il-qasba. Min ra l-qasba mar jistaghad u rnexxielu.

        Il-Partit tal-PL qed iwieghed il-huta. U n-nies iridu l-huta u mhux il-qasba. Dik hi r-realta.

        Ebda Gvern qatt ma ta’ il-huta lil hadd u min qed iwieghed il-huta, vera korrott.

  29. La hawn min qed isemmi l-UE u s-shubija, staqsu lil Gonzi biex jaghmel “cost-benefit” minn korp indipendenti i,dwar is-shubija fl-UE, halli naraw kemm sejrin tajjeb jew le finanzjarjament mal-UE, specjalment wara li issa qed ikollna nhallsu l-mijiet ta’ miljuni biex insalvaw banek irresponsabbli barranin !

    • H.P. Baxxter says:

      Eddy, int ufficjalment idjota. L-Unjoni Ewropea mhijhiex dwar flus. Hija ghazla ta’ civiltà. Iktar u iktar ghalina li gejjin minn pajjiz fix-xifer tal-Ewropa.

      Gej bil-cost-benefit.

    • ciccio says:

      Tghid inqabbdu lill-Korp tal-Pijunieri, Dirghajn il-Maltin jew lil tad-Dejma biex jaghmluh il-“cost benefit,” sur Privitera?

  30. mattie says:

    Daph, your blog is as successful as you are.

    But keep the rubbish out, or filter it. That way, your success shall continue.

  31. r pace bonello says:

    With the coming of the new middleclass what is going to happen to the existing middleclass?

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