Cameron says that Britain could leave the EU if Juncker is made Commission president

Published: June 1, 2014 at 1:56pm

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  1. H.P. Baxxter says:

    Yes right. Tell that to the bankers. He’s just trying to rally his voter base after the humiliating electoral result.

  2. albona says:

    Good riddance.

  3. vic says:

    Britain has never really been a European country.

    • albona says:

      Really? I think what you mean is that it has never been a true member of the EU.

      In fact, at no point in its history has it ever not been a European country. I do not think I need to list every single detail of its history, language, culture, economy and politics to prove my point. It is a mere statement of fact.

      • carlos says:

        The reason why President De Gaulle kept Britain waiting for ten years before joining the Union was that he never believed in Britain’s sincerity about the Union of European countries. Britain was always sceptical abut the EU.

  4. Jozef says:

    Erm, Juncker will be the one to stand up for Britain, Luxembourg and Malta against the introduction of the Tobin tax.

    Unless Britain cannot afford an ECB as envisaged by all member states other than Germany. Or maybe he can’t afford to lose more votes to Farage.

  5. jasper says:

    Is this solely for UK domestic consumption in view of the Newark bye-election or , as usual, blowing hot and cold about EU membership. Since UK (always if the Scottish independence referendum is shot down by voters) joined in the early seventies in EEC days, Britain always looked like a round peg in a square hole, not really comfortable with its membership.

    • albona says:

      It was only allowed to join in 74 after a whole decade of begging to join. De Gaulle just kept vetoing their accession. Then they join only for successive UK administrations to realise that they could blame the big bad EU for every single domestic issue that they were incapable of fixing internally. Why not? The average voter does not know much about governance anyway, so just turn the discussion into the size or shape of cucumbers.

      Let them leave. It is only the English who are truly eurosceptic anyway. The Scots are pro-EU and the Welsh don’t really have much of a choice.

      The reason it is the English in particular that are eurosceptic is that they still have visions of grandeur as a great empire; unfortunately for them the sun set on that empire in 1945 when the power structures of the world shifted and changed.

      To quote a fool: ‘wake up and smell de coffee’.

      If they leave I give them a decade before they beg to join again.

  6. bob-a-job says:

    I’m seriously starting to think that David Cameron is one of the worst Prime Ministers that England ever had.

    Cameron is only saying that to boost his ever waning popularity.

    Rightfully, Jean-Claude Juncker has described David Cameron’s campaign to block him from taking the European Union’s top job in Brussels as “blackmail”.

  7. Edward says:

    I am hoping that the rule “go in a pope, come out a cardinal” will apply to all this, although it’s unlikely.

    I think the Commission president role should be filled by someone elected directly by the people.

    Admittedly that might be an unpopular idea, especially when people will say that it is parliament that has the final say on things so it doesn’t really matter, but I disagree.

    The president of the Commision steers Europe, and I think people should vote on the direction we take. Not doing so means we might get landed with a Commision president who steers Europe in a direction that is not wanted, and his or her time as president will be spent pushing laws and reforms that parliament will constantly vote against, which doesn’t make sense to me. At least that’s how I see it.

    • albona says:

      In theory I agree with the president being directly elected. Then I take a look at the average uninformed voter and realise that the current arrangement is quite ok for now, lest we end up with someone like Tsipras or Le Pen as president.

      • Edward says:

        They got a fraction of the vote when you look at the whole of the EU.

        Plus, I think that this way those campaigning for a seat in the European Parliament will be part of an EU political party, and we can do away with using the MEP elections as some sort of vendetta towards governments when we should be voting on issues.

        Leave the protesting to the local council elections- if someone unsavoury gets a seat, their damage will be limited to just that one area.

  8. kev says:

    Cameron is only saying this to woo back Tory voters who are defecting to Ukip in droves. He has repeatedly said himself that he would back Britain’s membership in a referendum which he promised by 2017 (if re-elected, of course, which is the reason why he promised a referendum in the first place).

    As usual, the game is elsewhere, but you people are so naïve, jahasra. Kindergarten politics.

    • A. Charles says:

      The first sentence was OK.

      The second sentence was typical of a Maltese “bahnan” exiled in Brussels.

      • kev says:

        I’m glad you seem to like the third and fourth sentences in the second paragraph, A. Charles.

      • Dissident says:

        Actually kev, your response to A.Charles is the most typical of a Maltese “bahnan”

      • kev says:

        I think your political acumen deserves the honour just as much, Dissident

  9. canon says:

    David Cameron can’t guarantee that Britain won’t quit the EU, if Juncker won’t get the job as president of the EU Commission.

  10. J Abela says:

    I think what Cameron is really afraid of is the Conservative Party breaking apart. And with the rise of UKIP there’s a real possibility that many conservative exponents will defect to UKIP along with their voters (who seem to have already made that transition).

    • kev says:

      There’s a by-election in Newark, June 5th. It’s supposed to be a safe seat for the Tories, but Ukip have a former Tory running and the lead is dwindling by the day (it’s going to be neck and neck).

      It would be the first Ukip Westminster seat and it will be seen as a disaster for Cameron, who is betting that the Ukip rise will not overflow into the 2015 general election.

      Whenever you see Cameron playing eurosceptic, just assume anything other than that he really is a eurosceptic. Cameron is part of the LibLabCon EU bandwagon. It’s all about wooing eurosceptics without actually committing to eurosceptism.

      Even Miliband is now playing such lip service, on both the EU and the immigration issuesm given that Labour voters are likewise switching to Ukip. But it doesn’t mean that if elected Miliband would do anything about the open door policy that’s been imposed on Britain by the EU.

  11. David says:

    Bye Bye Britain. However maybe independent Scotland will join the EU?

  12. silvio farrugia says:

    One thing for sure, and Mr Cameron knows it, is that Europe has to change.

    For many people it is a big complicated bureaucratic talking-shop and the only actions taken are restrictions on all of us.

    The people of Europe feel that it is only serving its bureaucrats, MEPs etc and making them richer out of our pockets.

    Also Europe is being filled with intolerant Muslims trying to impose their will and ways on everyone else.

    We in the west do not give much importance to religion and are tolerant but they are the opposite.

    Europeans feel like this but the ones at the EU offices are detached from people.

    The solution is to help immigrants in their own country and if there is instability (yes why not) help them militarily to eradicate the reasons. Also to avoid future troubles let in only Christians (Oh yeah I can hear some of you).

    Do you remember Enoch Powell in England with his ‘rivers of blood speech in the 70s? Most British say he was so right now but then they were so scandalized.

    [Daphne – 1968.]

  13. Noel says:

    The EU has already informed Alex Salmond ( leader of the Scottish Nationalist Party and current First Minister ) that an independent Scotland would not have the automatic right to join, but would have to wait along with other applicants.

    An independent Scotland would also not be welcomed by Spain, which has a problem with Catalan calls for independence.

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