Sheehan says “Ghandi l-ministru mieghi”.
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December 7, 2014 at 10:47pm
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Did the Doktor give him instructions to shoot?
So if it is true that the Minister was there, the Minister not only lied, but he is a witness of this incident.
Still not clear what the truth is.
[Daphne – Not a witness, Ciccio, but a participant.]
True.
How did they hide him?
Is that why the Commissioner of Police sent the low loader?
Was he toad away?
Which raises this case from the commonplace (as Kevin would have it) to the extraordinary.
Why was the Minister on the phone? Why did he lie about it? Was he directing a deal of some sort? What is the size of Malta’s black economy?
Cheers.
Wait a minute. “Ghandi l-Ministru mieghi” means the Minister is with me, here, not on the line.
Yes, Ciccio. I know that. But Sheehan could have been lying.
Telling the Control Room operator that the minister was there puts one hell of a rocket under their arse.
Even if the minister wasn’t there, he was allegedly on the phone with Sheehan. So he was directing something.
There are evil agencies at work, Ciccio.
You will demonstrate holding two mobile phone conversations simultaneously and a Glock.
@Jozef
And driving a ministerial Mercedes in a car chase.
Christ.
As for that mirror, taf int, ‘faqghuli l-karozza’.
No wonder Pawlu l-Machine Gun, the other driver, was there.
Alexandra Mamo called the officers on the scene before getting there and promptly referred the Police Commissioner’s instructions that no-one touch anything.
To no avail.
He must have been on the phone with the frog all the time.
Sheehan clearly says the minister is with him.
Just before the call goes through to the control room Sheehan can be heard talking to someone.
Just as a side-note, I’m surprised nothing blasphemous was said during this particular conversation.
Hekka – “a caldo” dahlitlu l-informazzjoni mela.
They all knew this.
From Joseph Muscat to kurt to the rest of the long list including the Acting Commissioner.
This is Malta’s corrupt Government exposed.
Liars.
The whole lot of them.
Where is Smith?
In hiding.
Sure?
The question is where is Manuel Mallia right now?
What is the security aspect of this country like right now?
What is Joseph Muscat’s answer right now?
Why give them ANY time to invent yet another story?
Dr Busuttil was so right when he used to say ‘gas down ġol-ħajt’.
[Daphne – I think we’ve heard that once too often now. Let’s give it a rest.]
Sorry to say, but Sheehan was gas down.
It fits. Smith must have recognised Mallia and so asked to talk to him when at Police Headquarters. Deal or no deal?
Recognised? Who told you it was an accidental encounter?
It’s true, we tend to take things for granted but with this lot you have to put every minute detail under the microscope.
It also means that Mallia did not really trust his daughter with the driver. He was with her himself prior to the incident.
If someone smashes your car mirror, you don’t go after them or phone the police, let alone summon the Rapid Intervention Unit because he got away. You take down their number plate and then go down to the nearest station, as the operator told Sheehan to do.
His behaviour it totally irrational or motivated by some other issue. Was it drugs? Was it something else that has nothing to do with the car?
It’s highly unlikely that all this happened over a broken mirror. No one behaves like this, Red Bull or not, over a broken mirror.
He phoned 112, but for what exactly? Was it to help him get the man or just to report him to the police. Why on earth did he phone the police? He IS the police.
Too many questions. Too few answers.
This is where all that film trivia comes in handy.
Just fast forward to the weapons purchase scene in ‘Ronin’.
See how it ends:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDcWMF44Cjs
Didn’t he ask for Mallia?
So he did. Now he won’t.
Not until Sheehan’s trial starts.
It won’t go away.
This is surreal.
Laurence Gatt, Charlie Mangion and Lino Gauci Borda resigned for much less without waiting to be sacked.
Do the right thing, Mr Prime Minister. Sack those responsible RIGHT NOW and call an early election.
The Prime Minister should start by sacking himself. After today’s news, including what he said this morning that he is on the side of the truth, he no longer has the moral authority to sack others.
He never had moral authority.
Why was a policeman on the phone while driving a car more accurately during a car chase?
[Daphne – Um, I don’t think phoning while driving is the main problem here, Natalie.]
Definitely. Just to mention another illegality.
The question is not how he was driving and speaking on the phone, but assuming that he was not using a Bluetooth device (and it does not sound as if he was) how could he speak on the phone, shoot and drive at the same time?
Jekk il-ministru kien ma’ x-xufier, allura hemm xi haga tinten fin-nofs, ghax fl-istess hin, il-ministru huwa l-avukat tal-kumpanija ta’ Smith.
U l-alibi tieghu kumbinazzjoni kien l-aqwa li seta kellu f’Malta, li kien mal-kummissarju.
This would explain why L-Iskocciz called Mallia. Not as his lawyer but as the guy who ordered him to be shot at. This episode gets messier by the day.
*Messier
That’s what they said he’d said.
No guarantee that he actually did that considering he had no choice.
This is pure conjecture here, but now we have to start dealing with the possibility that the minister is involved in something far, far bigger than just a botched cover-up; something so big that it’s hard to imagine a minister this side of Mexico being involved in it.
What was in Mr Smith’s car might have been something which the constable was supposed to collect or get hold for the minister.
For some reason, the deal fell through but the constable was ready to do anything to try and get whatever was in there.
Bloody hello, Matthew S? Ding dong? Wakey wakey?
Getting warmer.
Was it white and was it powder and how much of it could 500,000 buy?
I imagine the judges will have a sleepless night to reach tomorrow’s deadline. Back to the drawing board after this?
I do not think they should have accepted the brief in the first place. Ohrajn bil-guh.
The driver sounds possessed.
Second call three minutes later, alone with Smith inside the tunnels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NajBDTKfDy8
One wonders what Joseph’s enquiring magistrates think of all this.
Where’s Frankie Debono? Hu go fik.
Why couldn’t he go to the nearest police station as suggested by the Control Room?
Why does he bring the fact that the Minister was with him as an excuse, and he asks for the RIU and chooses to shoot instead?
They had to get Smith’s car into a Police keep?
Yes. Daphne pointed this out before. But I mean it is this part of the clip which points to that fact. It is his insistence on getting to that car, as opposed to resolving a car accident.
Now if they resorted to getting the police to assist them in impounding a car with whatever was in it together with its driver, it means that this bunch were even resorting to using the resources of the state, the police actually, for their illegal business.
You make it sound as though that was the first time.
@ Ciccio
They had to silence him but could they take him in without the car?
Let’s go back to if the bullets met their mark.
Include the new element of the Minister’s presence.
Is OK, Siehbi indicating that they got their agreement from Smith?
Since the Minister was with him during the shooting, how did he leave the scene and where did he go?
The minister couldn’t have been with Sheehan. This is clearly evidenced elsewhere. He roped in the minister simply to add clout to his demand for back-up forces.
[Daphne – ‘This is clearly evidenced elsewhere.’ Is it? How and what? This is a genuine question and not sarcasm.]
Kev, the only other information we have about the Minister’s whereabouts at the time of the accident is that he was at Police HQ.
What a very convenient alibi.
From what we know now, he should have been with the police – but under arrest.
As Kev says I doubt the minister was there. The timeline does not seem to support that line of enquiry.
If he was there, what happened next? Did he get out of the car before the car sped off? Was he a passenger in the car chase?
Did someone follow and pick him up? Would he allow himself to risk being so directly involved in a chase never mind the consequences?
More importantly, how was Smith’s car stopped and by whom? And what happened in the intervening moments to the press arrived?
According to the first transcript released by the PN media, Manwel Mallia was enquiring about his daughter as late as 11pm, asking for Sheehan’s mother’s address and being told by Sheehan that the other driver had picked her up.
Had he been with him at the time of the incident this matter would have more likely been cleared immediately and arrangements made for the other driver to take over.
Moreover, according to the transcript, Mallia was already at Police GHQ when Sheehan reported that he had shot at Smith:
“F’din il-konversazzjoni wkoll Paul Sheehan jinstema’ jistaqsi biex ikellem lill-Minisru Manwel Mallia li dak il-ħin kien qiegħed fil-Kwartieri Ġenerali tal-Pulizija jattendi okkażjoni soċjali.”
http://maltarightnow.com/news/2014/12/05/dawn-it-telefonati-jikkonfermaw-il-gidba-ta-mallia-2/
What was there in Smith’s car that Sheenan desperately had to get his hands on?
Is that why they were so eager to remove the car, apart from covering the whole incident?
Is that why he was kept locked up for 48 hours? Where they trying to get whatever they wanted from Smith?
I think this big mess is not about a mirror. I think there is more to come out.
You don’t say?!
No, perhaps Smith was going to give Manuel an Arlogg Tal-Lira to give to Joseph and he wanted to keep it a secret.
This incident is about smoke and mirrors.
That was clear to most of us on day one.
emm… if Smith was a client of Mallia’s, and if the minister was there, is it a coincidence or did they have a planned meeting near the ‘pixxina’?
Why would Sheehan’s mother be on her doorstep moaning about having the Minister’s daughter? Her residence is significantly far from the pool car park.
What was inside that car?
I think this incident is tied to Leisure Clothing and whatever is really going on there.
A few observations on these telephone calls:
1. Sheehan is a stupid man – no intelligent man would have mentioned that the Mallia was with him.
2. Was Mallia really with him? We will never know for sure at this rate.
3. If Minister Mallia was in the car, what in the hell possessed him to order Sheehan to follow and shoot at Smith’s car? Something very important, or rather, very important in the harm it would do to Mallia, must have been in Smith’s car.
But still, couldn’t there have been a safer, less probable to be catastrophe-inducing, way of getting to whatever was in the car? How did Mallia, a cunning man, manage to lose sight of how potentially disastrous this would become for him? Somehow I can’t really get to grips with this issue.
4. If Minister Mallia was in the car, did the Prime Minister know this?
How they thought this stuff wouldn’t come out is beyond me. In this day and age it is very, very difficult to keep such things secret.
For a minister’s driver to shoot at a car while driving a car with GM plates and possibly the minister beside him, just because of a wing mirror, is really hard to believe.
The key to this bizarre incident lies in the semi-deranged mind of the policeman cum driver. He appears to be high, either on the vast quantities of Red Bull he reportedly consumes daily or on other stuff.
He rings the Police control room and shoots while on the phone. He blames the control room operator for ‘making him shoot’. He threatens to continue shooting unless he is helped to apprehend the driver who inadvertently ‘broke his car’s mirror’.
Add to the mix a Police Commissioner who is more concerned about the political implications of the incident rather than its criminal nature, a Minister intent on covering his ample ass rather than doing what is right by the community he is bound to serve, and a PM’s communications officer who construes his role as one of a spinner, and you have a right royal mess, unrivalled for bizarreness during the past three decades.
Two, if not three, heads will have to roll if the nation is to feel that a semblance of normality may one day return.
I do not think that Sheehan mentioned a broken mirror in the first video when he is heard shooting. He refers only to “faqghali il-karozza tal-Ministru.”
This is an important detail, especially when assessing what happened to that mirror, when, and for what reason exactly.
Dawn x’affarijiet huma?
Il-Ministru kien fil-karozza dak il-mument ta’ l-isparatura jew ma kienx?
Jew Sheehan beda jibblaffja biex jimpressjona lil 112?
Kif jista jkun Mallia sparixxa mix-xena? U kif spicca id-Depot?
Interessanti. Ma jitwemnux. Bla kliem.
The safest place for the minister to go to at that point, without an armed driver, would have been the police HQ.
It seems that by the time the low-loader was on the scene – this happened before the media arrived in the tunnels – the Minister had been whisked away, possibly with the help of a some police car redirected to the site.
Unless, of course, he helped himself to some of Sheehan’s Red Bull which may have been readily available in the Minister’s car, and grew wings.
All these facts seem to indicate that Mallia was with Sheehan at Gzira.
The car had GM plates on, later removed as part of the cover-up to “hide” Mallia.
Who in his right mind would leave his daughter in the hands of such a man?
Witnesses saw someone else with Sheehan in the car.
What the hell would Mallia be doing at Police HQ with the Commissioner on a weekday at that unearthly hour?
At 45 seconds in this video you can clearly hear Sheehan say “Aw Doctor”. Could it possibly be that he was on the line with Mallia at the same time?
Kudos to the police man on 112 who was extremely professional – thank God the Maltese police force has people like this who are not fazed by the mention of political figures.
Listen to clip at 44 to 47 seconds – is he saying ‘aw dottor’?
Too many questions have to be answered here.
The side mirror yarn is just not credible enough, and who in his right mind would end up near the ‘Pixxina’ car park when chased, a road that leads to nowhere but very convenient for sinister nocturnal escapades?
Then we come to the whereabouts of Mallia at the time.
Was he really at a party at Police HQ or was he on the scene?
Has the time lapse been checked? Finally why is Stephen Smith so complacent about all this even though he spent time under arrest?
To my mind we only have a fraction of this conundrum and we are still very far from the truth.
Just after saying ‘Ghandi il-ministru mieghi’, Sheenan is heard saying @Hawn dottor’ (0.45 – 0.46) as an aside. Who was he referring to as ‘dottor’?
Il-Ministru Mallia kien mieghu jew le waqt il-kummiedja/tragedja? Affarijiet tal-misthija #OKsiehbi
It is probable Sheehan shot more than twice. Replay the recording and you can tell he shot to impress the control room operator. I bet those two shots weren’t fired at the car. They were hasty shots.